I’m assuming this is about the relationship between porn and serial killers?
I think that the relationship there may be partially misunderstood, despite the fact that it does exist. Serial killers tend to use porn, and therefore some people tend to take this as evidence that pornography causes people to commit serial murder.
But guess what? Correlation is not causation.
Serial killers, specifically lust murderers and erotophonophiles, have a very active, intense fantasy life. These intense fantasies - that are sexually deviant and violent - can cause them to seek out violent pornography, and through consumption of this pornography the fantasies are reinforced. Eventually the fantasizing is not enough and the person acts out these desires.
The fantasies will always come first in the instances of this specific type of serial murder and the use of pornography is the by product. The fantasies are the issue, the fantasies are the fuel to the crime, and while pornography plays a part in reinforcing these fantasies through overuse - It is NOT the underlying causative factor.
(And then there’s the fact that sexually deviant fantasies don’t occur in a vacuum and there are more significant psychological processes at play)
Not all people who view violent pornography will become serial killers. Not all people who have violent fantasies will become serial killers. Serial killing is a rare phenomenon and a very complex issue - reducing it down to the use of pornography is a massive oversimplification and overlooks all the other issues involved.
I think the porn industry is incredibly harmful in many ways.
Watch this video, only if you have a strong stomach and are not easily triggered by violence against women.
Watch this video if you have the time, it’s an hour and twenty minute long lecture by Dr. Gail Dines, I’ve seen it a few times on my dash here, but she articulates the whole issue better than I ever could.
Yes, actually, well as sincere as he possibly could be.
Dahmer was not a psychopath. In my personal opinion Dahmer suffered from something along the lines of severe Schizoid Personality Disorder - a disorder that is characterised by blunted affect (lessened emotional response, not to be confused with lack of empathy), an intense fantasy life and a fixation on autoeroticism - his crimes were committed due to a desire to keep people with him, but as sex objects, and was lacking an interest in interpersonal relationships.
Dahmer was formally diagnosed with all sorts of issues, from borderline personality disorder (which I really doubt he had because that doesn’t present with the degree of blunted affect that Dahmer exhibited), paraphilic disorders, substance abuse disorders etc. He was also diagnosed with Personality Disorder - Not Otherwise Specified, but personally I think he exhibited far more schizoid traits than any other.
Dahmer did not show the same level of manipulation as someone like Bundy did, Dahmer confessed when he was caught, and his reasoning for this was that he "created this horror and it only makes sense I do everything to put an end to it." He pleaded guilty - albeit by reason of insanity, but considering his crimes and the intense compulsions and fantasy life you can’t be surprised or really blame him for that plea. After he was sentenced he carried out lengthy interviews where it is apparent that - unlike Bundy - he is sincerely taking responsibility. If anything the concern with Dahmer was that the blame would be shifted onto someone other than himself, specifically his parents and his upbringing. And he never once did the classic move of ‘I’m taking responsibility but I totally wouldn’t have done it if x did/didn’t happen’.
He also actively acknowledged the limitations of his own emotions and remorse. It looks good to the prison system, to parole boards, to the media, to admit that you feel remorse, that you’re acknowledging the impact of what you have done and you genuinely regret it - which is why shallow claims like the ones Bundy made were so manipulative, because he knew that it ‘looked good’ - Dahmer, on the other hand, while claiming he experienced remorse, actually said that it probably wasn’t as profound as it should be. That is not something you say to manipulate people. That accomplishes nothing - it is just honesty.
So yeah, Dahmer’s psychopathology was different, his behaviour following his arrest and incarceration was very different to the behaviour of the likes of Bundy, and how he talks about his crimes is so sincere and realistic that it’s very hard not to believe what he’s saying.
I don’t think Dahmer ever tried to manipulate people after he was caught, I think he accepted what happened, he accepted what was going to happen, and he was as honest as he could manage.
Yeah, I kind of have to stick to the codes of practice and I’m pretty sure telling stories about service users etc. on an online public forum would violate those in many ways.
I can tell you plenty about the cinema, but I’ve a feeling that’s not what you were looking for…
Haha, just a bit.
I’m a support worker with medium to high risk violent and sexual offenders, I also volunteer twice a week at a mental health support centre. And technically I also work at a cinema, but I handed in my notice there the other day so I’ve only a handful of weeks to go before I’m free!
First of all, a bit of a disclaimer. I think there are some massive issues with the porn industry, and as a result I do think the industry is harmful.
That being said, Ted Bundy’s final interview was actually a final attempt at manipulation, an attempt to shift blame and an attempt to garner sympathy and maintain appearances in whatever way he could manage by that point. The interview itself annoys me, watching it annoys me, because you’re watching two people who are blatantly using each other for their own ends, without any real motivation to get the truth across. I think if Bundy had been interviewed by a journalist without an agenda, someone who wasn’t afraid to challenge him, it might have actually been useful and provided some sincere insights.
The first thing I noticed about the interview is firstly how adamant he is that he is taking responsibility for his actions, however - apart from explicitly saying this multiple times - he shows no real evidence of a true understanding of what he has done, of the impact he has had on his victims and their families. He doesn’t even apologise or say sorry during the entire interview. The entire interview, his entire narrative, is centred around the impact that ‘porn’ and his crimes have had on his own life, not on those that he killed. He has no appreciation for the suffering he has inflicted, he makes no attempt to understand the suffering he has inflicted, and as a result no real responsibility is taken because he never acknowledges the impact he has had!
Secondly, not only does he fail to address the impact he actively shifts the responsibility from himself onto pornography. He starts the interview claiming that he doesn’t want to shift blame, and yet he somehow manages to do it, he manages to paint a picture of a perfect, healthy young man who has become victim to the dangers of pornography. At one point, despite starting the sentence claiming that he was entirely responsible, he literally says he would not have committed the crimes had he not discovered pornography.That is the definition of abdicating responsibility - the porn literally made him do it.
It’s a very clever method, simultaneously expressing very shallow - but passable - remorse by claiming responsibility, while making himself out to be the victim of circumstance. At the time that he did this interview he was coming very close to his execution and was desperate for a stay - his ‘bones for time’ scheme had fallen through and really this was probably his last ditch attempt - to play the responsible, remorseful victim of circumstance.
Do I think porn can be harmful? - yes.
Do I think that interview was a sincere insight into the causes of Bundy’s crimes? Do I think Bundy was genuinely invested in the wellbeing of society? - No.
That interview was a last ditch attempt to buy time and save face. And it didn’t work.